Indi-Punky 18 355 Posté(e) août 6, 2012 Partager Posté(e) août 6, 2012 (modifié) Cannabis : les Pays-Bas renforcent le contrôle aux frontières Vous ramenez régulièrement du cannabis des Pays-Bas ? Depuis mai, nous vous l'avions dit, une "carte cannabis" a été mise en place, et c'est donc plus compliqué de traverser les 3 provinces du sud. Amsterdam est épargnée jusqu'en 2013. Au black Mais 3 mois après l'entrée en vigueur de ce système de weed pass, la mesure est critiquée, d'après The Huffington Post. Peu enclins à être fichés « fumeurs de joint », les jeunes Hollandais retournent acheter leur herbe au noir. Avec les risques que cela entraîne. Une loi qui sera rendu nationale en janvier 2013. Il ne sera alors plus possible pour les touristes d'acheter de la marijuana légalement, même à Amsterdam. Street press Amsterdam's Evolving Relationship With Weed Dutch pot smokers are complaining that the generation that was running around Amsterdam's Vondelpark in the Sixties naked and on acid is now threatening the well-established, regulated marijuana trade in the Netherlands. Responding to international pressure and conservatives in rural and small-town Holland, the federal government is cracking down on the coffeeshops that legally sell marijuana. But big-city mayors, like Amsterdam's, will fight to keep them open. Amsterdam's leaders recognize that legalized marijuana and the Red Light District's prostitution are part of the edgy charm of the city; the mayor wants to keep both, but get rid of the accompanying sleaze. The Dutch have learned that when sex and soft drugs are sold on the street rather than legally, you get pimps, gangs, disease, hard drugs and violence. Amsterdam recognizes the pragmatic wisdom of its progressive policies and is bucking the federal shift to the right. Locals don't want shady people pushing drugs in dark alleys; they'd rather see marijuana sold in regulated shops. While in Amsterdam, I took a short break from my guidebook research to get up-to-speed on the local drug policy scene. I find this especially interesting this year, as I'm co-sponsoring Initiative 502 in Washington State, which is on track to legalize, tax, and regulate the sale of marijuana for adults (on the ballot this November). The Netherlands' neighboring countries (France and Germany) are complaining that their citizens simply make drug runs across the border and come home with lots of pot. To cut back on this, border towns have implemented a "weed pass" system, where pot is sold only to Dutch people who are registered. But the independent-minded Dutch (especially young people) don't want to be registered as pot users, so they are buying it on the street -- which is rekindling the black market, and will likely translate to more violence, turf wars, and hard drugs being sold. The next step: In January of 2013, this same law will come into effect nationwide -- including in Amsterdam, whose many coffeeshops will no longer be allowed to legally sell marijuana to tourists. Locals point out that the Dutch are not more "pro-drugs" than other nations. For example, my Dutch friends note that, while the last 20 years of US Presidents (Clinton, Bush, Obama) have admitted or implied that they've smoked marijuana, no Dutch prime minister ever has. Many Dutch people are actually very anti-drugs. The Dutch word for addiction is "enslavement." But the Dutch response to the problem of addiction is very different from that of the US. Being a port city, Amsterdam has had its difficult times with drug problems. In the 1970s, thousands of hard-drug addicts made Amsterdam's old sailor quarter, Zeedijk, a no-go zone. It was nicknamed "Heroin Alley." To fight it, they set up coffeeshop laws (allowing for the consumption of pot while cracking down on hard-drug use). Today Zeedijk is gentrified, there's no sense of the old days, and various studies indicate that Holland has fewer hard-drug users, per capita, than many other parts of Europe. Nurseries promise you can take their seeds back into the U.S. An exception is this marijuana starter kit. From the mid-1980s to the mid-1990s, the number of coffeeshops exploded. The Dutch observed that marijuana use rates increased, too, so they made changes, closing shops that ignored rules or generated neighborhood complaints. Now, new coffeeshop licenses are no longer being issued, and the number of coffeeshops in Amsterdam has declined from a peak of over 700 to about 200 today. With the movement afoot to crack down on things, coffeeshops are trying harder than ever to be good citizens and to nurture good relations with their neighbors. While most Americans like their joints made purely of marijuana, the Dutch (like most Europeans) are accustomed to mixing tobacco with marijuana. There are several reasons: Back in the 1970s, most "pot smokers" here smoked hash, which needs to be mixed with something else (like tobacco) to light up. Today, more Dutch prefer "herbal cannabis" -- the marijuana bud common in the US -- but they still keep the familiar tobacco in their joints. Tobacco-mixed joints also go back to hippie days, when pot was expensive and it was simply wasteful to pass around a pure marijuana joint. Mixing in tobacco allowed poor hippies to be generous without going broke. And, finally, the Dutch don't dry and cure their marijuana, so it's hard to smoke without tobacco. Any place that caters to Americans will have joints without tobacco, but you have to ask specifically for a "pure" joint. Joints are generally sold individually (for €3 to €5, depending on the strain you choose). Coffeeshops are allowed only half a kilo (about a pound) of pot in their inventory at any given time. On a typical day, a busy shop will sell three kilos (and, therefore, take six deliveries). Very little marijuana is imported anymore, as the technology is such that strains from all over the world can be grown in local greenhouses. (And the Dutch wrote the book on greenhouses.) "Netherlands weed" is now refined, like wine. The Dutch hemp heritage goes way back in this sailing culture. In the days of Henry Hudson, hemp was critical for quality rope and for sails. The word "canvas" comes from the same root as "cannabis." In fact, there was a time when tobacco was the pricey leaf, and sailors mixed hemp into their cigarettes to stretch their tobacco. Tourists who haven't smoked since they were students are famous for overdosing in Amsterdam, where they can suddenly light up without any paranoia. Coffeeshop baristas nickname tourists about to pass out "Whitey" -- because of the color their face turns just before they hit the floor. The key is to eat or drink something sweet to stop from getting sick. Coca-Cola is a good fast fix and coffeeshops keep sugar tablets handy. No one would say smoking pot is healthy. It's a drug. It's dangerous, and it can be abused. The Dutch are simply a fascinating example of how a society can allow marijuana's responsible adult use as a civil liberty and treat its abuse as a health-care and education challenge rather than a criminal issue. They have a 25-year track record of not arresting pot smokers, and have learned that if you want to control a substance, the worst way to do it is to keep it illegal. Regulations are strictly enforced. While the sale of marijuana is allowed, advertising is not. You'll never see any promotions or advertising in windows. In fact, in many places, the prospective customer has to take the initiative and push a button to illuminate the menu in order to know what's for sale. And, surprisingly, marijuana is just not a big deal in the Netherlands -- except to tourists coming from lands where you can do hard time for lighting up. A variety of studies have demonstrated that the Dutch smoke less than the European average -- and fewer than half as many Dutch smoke pot, per capita, as Americans do. Huffingtonpost Modifié août 6, 2012 par Indi-Punky Lien à poster Partager sur d’autres sites
Megadeth 17 Posté(e) août 7, 2012 Partager Posté(e) août 7, 2012 Dommage que ce soit en Anglais, j'y comprend rien Si il y avais une bonne âme avec quelques connaissances en Anglais pour corriger une translation, ce serai cool Lien à poster Partager sur d’autres sites
manzion 425 Posté(e) août 7, 2012 Partager Posté(e) août 7, 2012 Yop Même si tu lis pas l'anglais, il était évident que cette mesure "d'un autre âge" ne puisse pas réguler quoi que ce soit.....les battaves nous ont pompé notre fric à chaque voyage à Maas (ou ailleurs) puis ils ont craché dans la soupe nous rendant, entre autres, responsables des embouteillages à l'entrée de la ville et des nuisances dans cette même ville...... J'espère que mainteant le trafic est fluide (dur, dur, quand l'autoroute traverse la ville avec des feux rouges.....plutôt une mauvaise conception battave de l'autoroute) et que les trottoirs sont déserts......plus qu'à finir les fortifications commencées par Vauban (province française par le passé) et ils pourront vivre en autarcie..... Quelque part, cette mièvre mesure a permis a beaucoup d'entre nous de se mettre le dernier coup de pied au derche pour se lancer dans l'autoprod.....et fumer de la weed "maison", bien meilleure que celle des coffees....... On a passé l'âge de jouer au chat et à la souris avec les molosses de flics battaves pour quelques grs de weed......même si on a passé de très bons moments au bord du Maas.....et qu'on a contribué grassement à l'enrichissement de la ville.....à 2.50€ l'heure de stationnement, ça chiffre vite..... Bref, re-vive l'autoprod..... Lien à poster Partager sur d’autres sites
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